Comments on: Information Retrieval http://peteashdown.org/journal/2006/05/11/information-retrieval/ Fast Forward the Future Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:08:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Justin Burdine http://peteashdown.org/journal/2006/05/11/information-retrieval/comment-page-1/#comment-405 Justin Burdine Fri, 19 May 2006 21:47:44 +0000 http://peteashdown.org/journal/?p=66#comment-405 ugh... just for the record, according to the Mark Klein's documents that he took from AT&T, no one is safe. The <a href="http://blog.wired.com/images/nsadocs2_f.jpg" rel="nofollow">peering circuit chart</a> is very telling. They listed peering circuits wich pretty much connect "the internet" with their Narus boxes. The Narus boxes are basically giant network vaccumms. "Anything that comes through (an internet protocol network), we can record," says Steve Bannerman, marketing vice president of Narus, a Mountain View, California, company. "We can reconstruct all of their e-mails along with attachments, see what web pages they clicked on, we can reconstruct their (voice over internet protocol) calls." The bummer is that we need like 200 more guys like Pete who are new blood and aren't part of the good ol'e boys network. The worry I have with all new politicians is that they are completely ready to take on the government "man" but then when they get there they have to bow and curtsey to the established "boys" so that they'll vote for your agenda. Pete, you have my vote, and I wish you the best on your battle! ugh… just for the record, according to the Mark Klein’s documents that he took from AT&T, no one is safe. The peering circuit chart is very telling. They listed peering circuits wich pretty much connect “the internet” with their Narus boxes. The Narus boxes are basically giant network vaccumms.

“Anything that comes through (an internet protocol network), we can record,” says Steve Bannerman, marketing vice president of Narus, a Mountain View, California, company. “We can reconstruct all of their e-mails along with attachments, see what web pages they clicked on, we can reconstruct their (voice over internet protocol) calls.”

The bummer is that we need like 200 more guys like Pete who are new blood and aren’t part of the good ol’e boys network. The worry I have with all new politicians is that they are completely ready to take on the government “man” but then when they get there they have to bow and curtsey to the established “boys” so that they’ll vote for your agenda.

Pete, you have my vote, and I wish you the best on your battle!

]]> By: Kevin Blackham http://peteashdown.org/journal/2006/05/11/information-retrieval/comment-page-1/#comment-402 Kevin Blackham Fri, 19 May 2006 12:50:16 +0000 http://peteashdown.org/journal/?p=66#comment-402 We had data collected on a number of the hijackers involved in the 9/11 attacks, but not the resources to translate it. How are we doing a better job analyzing the intelligence we have by gathering such overwhelming amounts of information on everybody? (inspiration: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=186003&cid=15353189) This seems like the only benefit is one can pull up the calling records of a particular individual, and immediately reference everyone they associate with. However, if one is up to no good, they're not going to use the public phone infrastructure. It's like Friendster, Orkut or LinkedIn for everyone. The potential for abuse is scary, especially since King George II thinks his administration is above any oversight. We had data collected on a number of the hijackers involved in the 9/11 attacks, but not the resources to translate it. How are we doing a better job analyzing the intelligence we have by gathering such overwhelming amounts of information on everybody? (inspiration: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=186003&cid=15353189)

This seems like the only benefit is one can pull up the calling records of a particular individual, and immediately reference everyone they associate with. However, if one is up to no good, they’re not going to use the public phone infrastructure. It’s like Friendster, Orkut or LinkedIn for everyone. The potential for abuse is scary, especially since King George II thinks his administration is above any oversight.

]]> By: James Lee Vann http://peteashdown.org/journal/2006/05/11/information-retrieval/comment-page-1/#comment-373 James Lee Vann Tue, 16 May 2006 05:23:27 +0000 http://peteashdown.org/journal/?p=66#comment-373 Well said- but I want to point out one thing- It may not always be in the nations best interest to arrest a known terrorist immediatly. If law enforcement is listening in on terrorist phone calls and gaining information, they would immediatly lose that source of information after arresting the suspect (terrorist). Of course, obtaining a legal warrant for the wire tap would be prefferred. Good luck with your campaign, I’ll tell all of my Utah friends to vote for you. (I really don’t like Orin Hatch) Well said- but I want to point out one thing- It may not always be in the nations best interest to arrest a known terrorist immediatly. If law enforcement is listening in on terrorist phone calls and gaining information, they would immediatly lose that source of information after arresting the suspect (terrorist). Of course, obtaining a legal warrant for the wire tap would be prefferred.

Good luck with your campaign, I’ll tell all of my Utah friends to vote for you. (I really don’t like Orin Hatch)

]]> By: Joe LaBonte http://peteashdown.org/journal/2006/05/11/information-retrieval/comment-page-1/#comment-369 Joe LaBonte Sun, 14 May 2006 16:54:38 +0000 http://peteashdown.org/journal/?p=66#comment-369 Good on you Pete. I'll be voting for you and have some ideas to help your campaign if you would like to talk about them I will be in town thru monday Good on you Pete. I’ll be voting for you and have some ideas to help your campaign if you would like to talk about them I will be in town thru monday

]]> By: Steve Hiatt http://peteashdown.org/journal/2006/05/11/information-retrieval/comment-page-1/#comment-368 Steve Hiatt Fri, 12 May 2006 15:54:23 +0000 http://peteashdown.org/journal/?p=66#comment-368 I am in shock. This is not the QWest I am familiar with. I applaud them for this. I am in shock. This is not the QWest I am familiar with. I applaud them for this.

]]> By: Part of the Plan » Blog Archive » Why All The Fuss? http://peteashdown.org/journal/2006/05/11/information-retrieval/comment-page-1/#comment-367 Part of the Plan » Blog Archive » Why All The Fuss? Fri, 12 May 2006 14:42:36 +0000 http://peteashdown.org/journal/?p=66#comment-367 [...] What pisses me off is that this administration is too incompetent to do anything meaningful with any meaningful information derived from this illegal project.  Not that there will be any meaningful information derived…everybody knows that.  As Pete Ashdown has noted, today’s terrorists would have to be dumber than shoebomber Richard Reid to still be using the public phone network for communications.  Or the internet, for that matter, encrypted or not.  Still, BushCo will spend billions of dollars on this stupid project.  Which is probably just what Al-Qaeda wants, since they are operating inside our OODA loop (and BushCo has not even read Boyd’s work). [...] [...] What pisses me off is that this administration is too incompetent to do anything meaningful with any meaningful information derived from this illegal project.  Not that there will be any meaningful information derived…everybody knows that.  As Pete Ashdown has noted, today’s terrorists would have to be dumber than shoebomber Richard Reid to still be using the public phone network for communications.  Or the internet, for that matter, encrypted or not.  Still, BushCo will spend billions of dollars on this stupid project.  Which is probably just what Al-Qaeda wants, since they are operating inside our OODA loop (and BushCo has not even read Boyd’s work). [...]

]]> By: Shawn Thompson http://peteashdown.org/journal/2006/05/11/information-retrieval/comment-page-1/#comment-366 Shawn Thompson Fri, 12 May 2006 03:53:39 +0000 http://peteashdown.org/journal/?p=66#comment-366 I'm now thinking about switching to Quest. Oh and you still had my vote anyway Pete. Thanks for the info and keep it up! I’m now thinking about switching to Quest. Oh and you still had my vote anyway Pete. Thanks for the info and keep it up!

]]> By: John Varn http://peteashdown.org/journal/2006/05/11/information-retrieval/comment-page-1/#comment-365 John Varn Fri, 12 May 2006 00:52:58 +0000 http://peteashdown.org/journal/?p=66#comment-365 Now we can look back upon previous heydays of 'unwarranted' surveillance and say "at least most of them had warrants." Now we can look back upon previous heydays of ‘unwarranted’ surveillance and say “at least most of them had warrants.”

]]> By: PoliticalCritic http://peteashdown.org/journal/2006/05/11/information-retrieval/comment-page-1/#comment-364 PoliticalCritic Thu, 11 May 2006 22:43:50 +0000 http://peteashdown.org/journal/?p=66#comment-364 I am now a huge fan of Qwest. Unfortunately, I live on the east coast and am not able to use them. I have Verizon, who has already given my phone records to the NSA. They try to tell us that all they have are phone numbers and no names? BullSh*t! If they do find an individual whose phone activity is suspicious, they can go get the name and address. So what makes you think they can't get the journalists, bloggers, and political enemies? I am now a huge fan of Qwest. Unfortunately, I live on the east coast and am not able to use them. I have Verizon, who has already given my phone records to the NSA. They try to tell us that all they have are phone numbers and no names? BullSh*t! If they do find an individual whose phone activity is suspicious, they can go get the name and address. So what makes you think they can’t get the journalists, bloggers, and political enemies?

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