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		<title>By: HB 150: A Violation of Privacy &#171; Utah Legislature Watch</title>
		<link>http://peteashdown.org/journal/2010/02/26/get-a-warrant/comment-page-1/#comment-41631</link>
		<dc:creator>HB 150: A Violation of Privacy &#171; Utah Legislature Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a court battle in your favor.  HB 150&#8230;. was defeated in the House yesterday[February 25], but Pete Ashdown writes that Rep. Daw wants to bring it back from the dead as a slimmed down version covering kidnapping and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a court battle in your favor.  HB 150&#8230;. was defeated in the House yesterday[February 25], but Pete Ashdown writes that Rep. Daw wants to bring it back from the dead as a slimmed down version covering kidnapping and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Ashdown</title>
		<link>http://peteashdown.org/journal/2010/02/26/get-a-warrant/comment-page-1/#comment-41624</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Ashdown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately David, they slapped some minor modifications on it and &lt;a href=&quot;http://peteashdown.org/journal/2010/02/26/hb150-passes-house/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;passed the house&lt;/a&gt;.  Contact your senator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately David, they slapped some minor modifications on it and <a href="http://peteashdown.org/journal/2010/02/26/hb150-passes-house/" rel="nofollow">passed the house</a>.  Contact your senator.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://peteashdown.org/journal/2010/02/26/get-a-warrant/comment-page-1/#comment-41622</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the problem with this bill is that it defines the entire apparatus of the ISP as a target for the search and seizure of the information specified. This includes emails and the email headers that are part of the email themselves. If this was limited to log files, accounting information, transaction logs, or other such mechanisms, perhaps this bill would have had life. Perhaps the next incarnation will have those limits in place but it still won&#039;t give the AG what he wants until he can get at the emails themselves. The scope was too reaching and it fails because deep down it is wrong and a warrant is the proper tool.

In the end, a majority of the people in the State Legislature had enough sense to do the right thing.

&quot;The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one&#039;s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.&quot; -H. L. Mencken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the problem with this bill is that it defines the entire apparatus of the ISP as a target for the search and seizure of the information specified. This includes emails and the email headers that are part of the email themselves. If this was limited to log files, accounting information, transaction logs, or other such mechanisms, perhaps this bill would have had life. Perhaps the next incarnation will have those limits in place but it still won&#8217;t give the AG what he wants until he can get at the emails themselves. The scope was too reaching and it fails because deep down it is wrong and a warrant is the proper tool.</p>
<p>In the end, a majority of the people in the State Legislature had enough sense to do the right thing.</p>
<p>&#8220;The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one&#8217;s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.&#8221; -H. L. Mencken</p>
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		<title>By: City Weekly reader</title>
		<link>http://peteashdown.org/journal/2010/02/26/get-a-warrant/comment-page-1/#comment-41606</link>
		<dc:creator>City Weekly reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the story of Rachel Guyon&#039;s run-in with the Utah Attorney General&#039;s Office to understand where the initiative for HB 150 - Administrative Subpoena Amendments is coming from.

Mark Shurtleff often says that his office doesn&#039;t like to lose. His actions show that when his office does lose, it works to change the rules so that his office will win the next time out ... procedural protections for the citizen accused be damned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the story of Rachel Guyon&#8217;s run-in with the Utah Attorney General&#8217;s Office to understand where the initiative for HB 150 &#8211; Administrative Subpoena Amendments is coming from.</p>
<p>Mark Shurtleff often says that his office doesn&#8217;t like to lose. His actions show that when his office does lose, it works to change the rules so that his office will win the next time out &#8230; procedural protections for the citizen accused be damned.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Anderson</title>
		<link>http://peteashdown.org/journal/2010/02/26/get-a-warrant/comment-page-1/#comment-41603</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad HB150 got defeated and [sadly] not at all surprised that they will make an altered attempt. Disgusting the way some people try, time and time again, to subvert reasonable measures. I couldn&#039;t agree with you simple &quot;Fine, get a warrant&quot; statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad HB150 got defeated and [sadly] not at all surprised that they will make an altered attempt. Disgusting the way some people try, time and time again, to subvert reasonable measures. I couldn&#8217;t agree with you simple &#8220;Fine, get a warrant&#8221; statement.</p>
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		<title>By: HB 150: Rep Daw Not Taking No For An Answer &#124; Saintless</title>
		<link>http://peteashdown.org/journal/2010/02/26/get-a-warrant/comment-page-1/#comment-41600</link>
		<dc:creator>HB 150: Rep Daw Not Taking No For An Answer &#124; Saintless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] House Bill that attempts to ignore the 4th amendment. It was defeated in the House yesterday, but Pete Ashdown writes that Rep. Daw wants to bring it back from the dead as a slimmed down version covering kidnapping and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] House Bill that attempts to ignore the 4th amendment. It was defeated in the House yesterday, but Pete Ashdown writes that Rep. Daw wants to bring it back from the dead as a slimmed down version covering kidnapping and [...]</p>
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